Man’s Moral Compass & the Absolute Standard (PART 2)

MORALITY. In my PREVIOUS ARTICLE, I wrote on whether one must subscribe to theism if there is a desire to claim a sense of morality. Ultimately, I concluded that a rejection of theism automatically disqualifies one of having any sense of justification behind their moral code. It becomes a meaningless standard with no authority to declare something to be right or wrong. While this is true, it begs a certain question: what is required of theism in order to be able to have a valid moral compass? Is it merely a belief in a deity that qualifies man to possess a moral compass, or is it a subscription to a deity who first possesses certain attributes? That is what I hope to adequately address in this article.

What exactly is morality? If we take the dictionary approach, it can be defined as an overall set of principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong. But in order to have a distinction between right and wrong, there must first be the existence of right and wrong. We’re not just talking about relative concepts but absolute standards. Otherwise, it ceases to be a distinction between right and wrong and begins to be a distinction between how one views right from wrong. This is where many atheists attempt to find their exit strategy. When pressed, they claim there is no absolute morality. This is because they secretly know any absolute standard must come from an absolute standard bearer, of which no man possesses such authority. Instead, they claim to know right from wrong but only in the sense that society currently sees it. Of course, there are many problems with this view. If held consistently, it would mean American slavery was once good and proper and has only been made wrong within the last couple centuries. And, of course, it opens the door to say it may once again be good and proper should it ever rise its ugly head again in the future. Such a standard is no standard at all. It’s postmodern drivel.

If morality must have absolute existence with an absolute standard, and no man can ever possess such an authoritative standard that he declares the entire world must follow, it stands to reason that the very concept of morality requires the existence of theism. It requires an authoritative deity. This deity alone is the one who can make such a positive declaration to mankind, distinguishing right from wrong. But who might this deity be? Well, that’s an answer for a future article. For now, I would like us to stay focused on what is required of this deity in order to be qualified to decree such a standard that all men are bound to. This certainly won’t be an exhaustive list, but I would like to touch on at least some of the important attributes that would be required.

1) MONOTHEISTIC. If there is a plurality of gods, it means there can be no absolute standard. It really doesn’t matter what form of polytheism we’re talking about either. If we wanted to go the route of Greek mythology, there would be a different god over each facet of life. In such a worldview, it all boiled down to making the gods happy over anything else. But that is a far cry from one absolute standard. Or we could go the route of Mormonism, which claims the Father was once a man who was turned into a god due to following his god’s standard to such a high degree. In that particular cult, his god also had a god, and his god also had a god, ad nauseum. It means the standard of the one they call Father isn’t even his own standard. It’s the standard of another. And much like Xerox copies, each successive copy would necessarily becomes that much less. Even if we wanted to say he held it to perfection, it’s still the standard of another. That means the one they worship possesses no real authority of his own and instead relies on the authority of some god who came before him. No, monotheism is the one way we can ever hope to find an absolute standard, as the authority must come from within this singular deity.

2) WISE. I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say the standard bearer of right and wrong must be wise. After all, it is in this wisdom where such concepts can even be birthed. If a deity were to say murder was good and just, it would be the epitome of unwise, as it would result in immeasurable amounts of death and damage toward others. Such a system would never function in a cohesive or peaceful manner. The fact that what is largely considered to be good and upright do tend to lead to peace (at least among those who practice them) should be all we need to see to attest to the wisdom required in order to implement such a system and to declare it as the standard that all men should follow.

3) IMMUTABLE. This one is important. After all, if the deity is able to change, it means the standard of right and wrong are also subject to change. If the standard of right and wrong are subject to change, we’re left with the same predicament as the atheist. It would mean God could declare something to be just, while later declaring it to be unjust. This insinuates a deity who is learning, or, at best, changing his mind about the goodness of something. But this also means the deity is now subject to error. Even if one wanted to argue that this deity is able to change the standard by the very fact that it is the god of standards, it still leaves the problem of a fickle nature that lacks any consistency, certainty, or intent. Sadly, there are a great many who believe their deity’s mind can be changed. In fact, I’d argue that’s the vast majority of religions. In the end, it just doesn’t work, and it leaves the question of objective morality unanswered. Such a belief has more in common with atheism than any other form of religion.

4) ABSOLUTE. This trait piggybacks off the previous one. With immutability comes an absoluteness. There is no indecisiveness or inexplicable change. Within such a form of theism, God is over all and is perfect. God simply is. Nothing is set above God, for that would mean God ceases being God, and anything that is below God just doesn’t matter when it comes to the standard of morality. We don’t appeal to the lesser when the greater has already declared what is. Without being absolute, no deity would be qualified to declare anything, let alone set a standard that all men are to follow as actuality.

5) SOLE AUTHORITY. In point #1, we covered why polytheism fails when it comes to establishing a standard. It’s because an objective and absolute standard must come from a wise, immutable, absolute, and singular source of authority. There can be no other god to appeal to. There can be no other god to make such declarations. In order for right and wrong to have actual existence in the objective sense, it must be declared from a sole authority who can not only make the declaration, but who can also enforce it upon all of creation.

As I said earlier, this is certainly not an exhaustive list, but it should be enough to firmly demonstrate why morality cannot exist void of theism, and it also serves to show why a multitude of religions will also fall short in their defense of morality. If you find yourself in a discussion with either an atheist or another world religion, I encourage you to reflect on these attributes. May they guide you in your flow of conversation as you challenge the shortcomings of their worldview. More importantly, may it set the stage for why there is only one true and living God who can possibly meet the above traits. In my next article within this series, I would like to conclude with why the God of the Bible is the only deity who meets the standards required in order for morality to exist.

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  1. Nothing at all shows that morality must or does have an absolute standard. You fail from the start. It’s always notable that Christians themselves cannot agree on what morals their god wants, so your baseless claims that your opinion is what god wants is simply false.

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    1. And yet you seem perfectly willing to cling to some arbitrary standard of morality that stems from the whims of advanced space dust, even though even that doesn’t agree with itself. Double standard?

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      1. Since that is all that exists, that’s what I’m stuck with. Again, Travis, where is this objective morality? Sine christains have all different lists of what morals their god wants, do show which list is god approved? Show how these morals are indeed objective.

        Morals aren’t often arbitrary. They are agreed upon by humans and those that work to further civilization are kept and the rest discarded.

        How doesn’t whatever you are referring to “not agree with itself”. As always, you are making claims that have nothing to support them, Travis. Just like you make up everything else about your religion.

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      2. But why should you care about advancing civilization? And why does mob rule dictate the standard? Where does such authority come from to persecute atheists who may hold to a different standard than you do? At this point, I feel you have ceased arguing for morality and are instead kicking and screaming against the God you are in rebellion against and the truth you actively suppress. If this weren’t the case, you never would’ve made the argument that everyone must be in agreement in order for something to exist.

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      3. Travis, you just repeat nonsenes you’ve heard from other theists without thinking.

        I care about advancing civilization since I and those I care about benefit from it.

        It’s great that you want to claim you have objective morality, but all *you* have is mob rule, so your claims about how supposedly bad that is fail mightily.

        Mob rule doesnt’ dictate the standard, what works does. So try again with your pearl clutching. Again, you presuppose a need for “authority”, and you assume your imaginary friend is it, when again, you can’t show it exists or that it gives morality at all. PEr the bible, this god wanted amoral and ignorant people.

        You desperately hope I’ve ceased arguing for morality, sine you have no evidence your claims are true. It’s great that you have to lie yet again and claim I rebel against your imginary friend, when again, I don’t since there is no thing to rebel against and again no evidence that your god agrees with you. You simply don’t like that i don’t agree with you.

        I also love when christians find they must lie and claim I somehow “surpress” agreeing with their nonsense. So, Travis, do you just supress agreeing with Muslims?

        It’s even more fun when you try yet again to claim your imaginary friend exists, even though christians can’t agree on what it is. Do tell how contradictory gods can exist, dear.

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      4. Thank you for confirming your responses have little to do with the origin or morality and have everything to do with waging your war against your Creator. This is why 90% of your reply (and I’m being generous) is an open rebellion toward God. I encourage you to stick to the topic at hand. If morality is not absolute and can change with the whims of society over time, how can it be authoritative while also not being oppressive to those who disagree with the current standard of society? Do you believe the masses can never oppress the minority? Perhaps you believe such oppression is acceptable? I would love to know, but you instead choose to keep waging your war and going off topic.

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      5. Nice lies, Travis. It’s great to see a christian who ignores his god. Unsurprisingly, you find you must lie about what I’ve said to try to attack me, and make yet more false clais about “rebellion”. Unfortuantely, since christians can’t agree on what their god wants, there is nothing to rebel against.

        Morality is only authoritative if humans agree. Still no evidence for your imaginary friend dear. Morality can indeed be opressive, and again, not objective at all.

        it’s great how you are now trying to move the goalposts since you can’t show your god exists, your particular set of morals is approved by this god, or that these morals are objective.

        and do show where I went “off topic” when we are both talking about morality. That should be fun.

        So, Travis, do you just suppress agreeing with Muslims?

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